{"id":6681,"date":"2014-05-14T20:58:54","date_gmt":"2014-05-14T20:58:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/georgethomasclark.com\/?p=6681"},"modified":"2014-05-14T20:59:14","modified_gmt":"2014-05-14T20:59:14","slug":"interview-with-chapo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/georgethomasclark.com\/interview-with-chapo\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Chapo"},"content":{"rendered":"

I\u2019m a young reporter and delighted to be first to interview Chapo Guzman in his new cell at Altiplano, in the state of Mexico. I\u2019ve met some celebrities but never such a big star. I imagine he must be pretty sad and discouraged living in a prison that has proven impregnable. Walls three feet thick deter frontal assaults as do armored vehicles stationed nearby. The bad guys can\u2019t fly in, either, since airspace is restricted over the prison. They better not try any other trickery or the finest sensory and tracking devices will instantly pinpoint their location. And forget corrupting prison employees: everyone from guards to the director undergoes regular lie detector tests. They even give me one and electronically check my fingerprints. Chapo won\u2019t escape from this prison like he did the last one.<\/p>\n

\tHe still seems happy when I arrive, shaking my hand hard and slapping my shoulder with his left hand as I enter a modest cell offering only a thin cushion over a concrete bed, an immovable concrete stool and desk, a steel toilet joined to a sink and water fountain, and a shower with a timer. From his cell Chapo can squint through a four-inch window into an inner courtyard. He rests on the bed, his back against the wall. I sit on the concrete stool about breaking my behind. <\/p>\n

\t\u201cMust be a difficult adjustment,\u201d I say.<\/p>\n

\t\u201cSure, but I\u2019d spent most of my time hiding in rat holes in the Sierra. Didn\u2019t get nearly as much luxury as a billionaire should.\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cDo you ever feel remorse about killing so many people?\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cNo, I feel good because I destroyed people who were trying to take my territory or who\u2019d insulted me or the Sinaloa Cartel. People like that, we cut their balls off, nice and slow, and then their lips, before we cut off their heads.\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cIsn\u2019t there a helluva lot of stress in a job like that? Worrying about other narcotics traffickers killing you, always having to run from the police and the army, the ones you didn\u2019t bribe.\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cThere\u2019s stress but, for me, being poor was worse.\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cHow do you spend your days? Do you still run your businesses?\u201d<\/p>\n

\tGuzman looks very unpleasantly at me and says, \u201cThey\u2019ve jammed cell phone communication outside ten kilometers. Can\u2019t do much.\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cNot much drug dealing but what about other options?\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cMy reading\u2019s getting better. I only went to school about three years, you know. We can borrow two books from the library. Can\u2019t go there so they roll the books here on a cart. We\u2019ve got a week or so to read them and don\u2019t get any more until we give a short book report.\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cYou write the reports?\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cMost of the time they\u2019re satisfied when I just tell them what I\u2019ve read.\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cI\u2019ve seen their workshop on TV. They\u2019ve got a lot of hammers and sharp tools. Have you been making any furniture?\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cThey don\u2019t let our group in there, and they don\u2019t let us see each other. I wouldn\u2019t either, if I was in charge. At least sometimes I get to visit my family in the auditorium.\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cAre these conjugal visits?\u201d<\/p>\n

\tChapo again appears unhappy.<\/p>\n

\t\u201cWell, great, I\u2019m glad you\u2019re able to see them,\u201d I say. \u201cAre you going to high school?\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cThat shit\u2019s too tough and doesn\u2019t interest me. I\u2019ve got a hundred degrees in my line of work. I should be teaching business and chemistry and agriculture and distribution and maintaining airplane fleets and paramilitary tactics and psychology and intimidation and plenty more. You think any high school teacher could do all those things.\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cNo way. How\u2019s the food?\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cDamn near every day they tell me how nutritious it is and to make sure I eat my apple.\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cYou\u2019re kidding?\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cNo. They think they\u2019re rehabilitating me.\u201d<\/p>\n

\tLooking at a gray steel door on the right wall of his cell, I ask, \u201cWhat\u2019s on the other side?\u201d<\/p>\n

\tChapo eases up and walks over and scratches the door which soon opens, and he steps through and motions for me. The door closes and leaves us in a carpeted room with a king size bed and giant TV on the wall and a refrigerator and bar and two young ladies in bikinis. Chapo embraces one, kissing her open-mouthed, and motions for me to get busy. I comply, and four hours later I\u2019m lying drunk and coked out on the bed with the other three, and Chapo points at me and says, \u201cI\u2019m thirty years older than you but took more drugs and fucked twice as much.\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cYeah, but you ate all the Viagra.\u201d<\/p>\n

\t\u201cDidn\u2019t really need it. I\u2019m a bull.\u201d<\/p>\n

Source: Borderland Beat, February 24, 2014<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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